Ga maar vast oefenen Dit zijn dus nog niet de definitieve programma's, maar voorstellen: Prelimenary Schedule P-13 (2012-2013) P-13.01 Clover Leaf with horizontal roll From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, push through a ¾ loop into a horizontal line, perform a roll, push through a ¾ loop into a vertical downline, pull through a ¼ loop, exit upright. P-13.02 Stall Turn with ¼ roll up, ¼ roll down From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform a ¼ roll, perform a stall turn into a vertical downline, perform a ¼ roll push through a 1/4 loop, exit inverted. P-13.03 Roll Combination with three ¼ rolls, three ¼ rolls in opposite direction From inverted, perform three ¼ rolls followed by another three ¼ rolls in opposite direction, exit inverted. P-13.04 Half Square Loop with two ½ rolls in opposite directions From inverted, push through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform two ½ rolls in opposite directions, push through a ¼ loop, exit upright. P-13.05 Triangle with roll in each line From upright, push through a 1/8 loop into a 45° downline, perform a roll, push through a 3/8 loop into a horizontal line, perform a roll, push through a 3/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform a roll, push through a 1/8 loop, exit upright. P-13.06 Reverse Immelman with roll From upright, perform a roll and immediately push through a ½ loop, exit inverted. P-13.07 45° Upline with 1 ½ snap roll From inverted, push through a 1/8 loop into a 45° upline, perfrom 1 ½ snap roll, push through a 1/8 loop, exit upright. P-13.08 Reverse Top Hat with ¼ roll down, ¾ roll up From upright, push through a ¼ loop into a vertical downline, perform a ¼ roll, push through a ¼ loop into a horizontal line, push through a 1/4 loop into a vertical upline, perform a ¾ roll, push through a ¼ loop, exit upright. P-13.09 Spin with 2 ½ turns, 2 ½ turns in opposite direction From upright, perform a spin with 2 ½ turns immediately followed by another 2 ½ turns in the opposite direction, perfrom a vertical downline, pull through a ¼ loop, exit upright. P-13.10 Pull-Push-Pull Humpty-Bump with ¼ roll up, ¼ roll down (Option: Two ¼ rolls up) From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform a ¼ roll, push through a 1/2 loop into a vertical downline, perform a ¼ roll, pull through a ¼ loop, exit upright. Option: From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform two ¼ rolls, push through a 1/2 loop into a vertical downline, pull through a ¼ loop, exit upright. P-13.11 Cuban 8 with integrated rolls on top 90° of both part loops. From upright, pull through a 5/8 loop into a 45° downline while performing an integrated roll in the top 90° of the loop, push through a ¾ loop into another 45° downline while performing a roll in the top 90° of the loop, pull through a 1/8 loop, exit upright. P-13.12 ½ Loop From upright, pull through a 1/2 loop, exit inverted. P-13.13 Square Loop with ½ roll in each line From inverted, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical downline, perform a ½ roll, push through a ¼ loop into a horizontal line, perform a ½ roll, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform a ½ roll, push through a ¼ loop into a horizontal line, perform a ½ roll , exit inverted. P-13.14 Figure 9 From inverted, push through a ¾ loop into a vertical downline, perform two ½ rolls, pull through a ¼ loop, exit upright. P-13.15 Roll Combination with ½ roll, roll, ½ rolls in opposite directions From upright, perform a ½ roll followed by a roll in opposite direction, followed by another ½ roll in again opposite direction, exit upright. P-13.16 ½ Loop on Corner with ¼ roll, ¼ knife-edge loop, ¼ roll from upright pull through a 1/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform ¼ roll, perform ¼ knife-egde loop into a 4 45° upline, perform ¼ roll, pull through a 1/8 loop, exit inverted. P-13.17 Figure Z with four 1/8 rolls From inverted, pull through a 3/8 loop into a 45° downline, perform four 1/8 rolls, pull through a 3/8 loop, exit upright. Final Schedule F-13 (2012-2013) F-13.01 Humpty-Bump with ¾ roll up, ½ knife-edge loop, ¾ roll down From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform a ¾ roll, perform a ½ loop in knife-egde flight into a vertical downline, perform a ¾ roll, push through a ¼ loop, exit inverted. F-13.02 ½ 6-Sided Loop with ½ roll From inverted, pull through a loop while performing four ¼ rolls, integrated in each 90° of the loop, exit inverted. into a 30° upline, push through a 1/6 loop into a vertical upline, perform a ½ roll, pull through a 1/6 loop into a 30° upline, pull through a 1/12 loop, exit inverted. F-13.03 Loop with four ¼ rolls integrated From inverted, perform three ¼ rolls followed by another three ¼ rolls in opposite direction, exit inverted. F-13.04 Figure 6 with stall turn, two ¼ rolls down From inverted, push through a ¾ loop into a vertical upline, perform a stall turn into a vertical downline, perform two ¼ rolls, pull through a ¼ loop, exit upright. F-13.05 Horizontal Circle 8 with two rolls From upright, perform a ¼ horizontal circle while performing the first ¼ of two rolls to the outside, then while continuing the rolling (¼ of the rolls per ¼ of the circles), then perform immediately another (full) circle in the opposite direction, then while continuing the rolling accordingly finish the remaining ¾ of the first circle, exit upright. F-13.06 Pull-Push-Push Humpty-Bump with four ¼ rolls up, roll down From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform four ¼ rolls, push through a ½ loop into a vertical downline, perform a roll, push through a ¼ loop, exit inverted. F-13.07 Roll Combination with ¼ roll, two snap rolls in opposite directions, ¼ roll From inverted, perform a ¼ roll followed by a snap roll and another snap roll in opposite direction, followed by a ¼ roll, exit upright. F-13.08 Shark Fin with roll up, two ¼ rolls down From upright, pull through a 1/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform a roll, push through a 3/8 loop into a vertical downline, perform two ¼ rolls, exit upright. F-13.09 45° Upline with eight 1/8 rolls From upright, pull through a 1/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform eight 1/8 rolls, exit upright. F-13.10 Reverse Top Hat with ¾ roll down, ¼ rolls up (Option: roll down, two ¼ rolls up) From upright, push through a ¼ loop into a vertical downline, perform a ¾ roll, push through a ¼ loop into a horizontal line, push through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform a ¼ roll, push through a ¼ loop, exit upright. Option: From upright, push through a ¼ loop into a vertical downline, perform a roll, push through a 1/2 loop into a horizontal line, push through a ¼ loop, perform two ¼ rolls, exit upright. F-13.11 Clown Dance with ½ loop, inverted spin, 2 ½ turns, two ¼ rolls down From upright, pull through a 1/2 loop into a horizontal line, perform an inverted spin with 2 ½ turns, perform a vertical downline, perform two ¼ rolls, exit upright. F-13.12 Fighter Turn with two ¼ rolls From upright, pull through a 1/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform a ¼ roll, push through ½ circle, to a 45° downline, perform a ¼ roll, pull through a 1/8 loop, exit upright. F-13.13 Knife-Edge Loop with integrated ½ roll on top 90° From upright, perform a ¼ roll, perform a loop in knife-edge flight while performing a ½ roll integrated in the top 90° of the loop, perform a ¼ roll, exit upright. F-13.14 Reverse Cuban 8 with sanp roll up From upright, pull through a 1/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform a snap roll, push through a 5/8 loop, exit inverted. F-13.15 Triangle with two ¼ rolls in each line From inverted, push through a 3/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform two 1/4 rolls roll, pull through a ¼ loop into a 45° downline, perform two ¼ rolls, push through a 3/8 loop into a horizontal line, perform two ¼ rolls, exit upright. F-13.16 ½ Loop with roll integrated From upright, pull through a ½ loop, while performing a roll integrated, exit upright. F-13.17 45° Downline with ¼ roll, roll, ¼ roll in opposite directions From inverted, pull through a 1/8 loop into a 45° downline, perform ¼ roll followed by a roll in opposite direction followed by a another ¼ roll in opposite direction, pull through a 1/8 loop, exit upright. Prelimenary Schedule P-15 (2014-2015) P-15.01 Golf Ball with two ½ rolls From upright, pull through a 1/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform a ½ roll, push through a ¾ loop into a 45° downline, perform a ½ roll, pull through a 1/8 loop, exit upright. P-15.02 ½ Square Loop on Corner with ½ roll From upright, pull through a 1/8 loop into a 45° degree upline, pull through a ½ loop into a 45° upline, perform a ½ roll, push through a 1/8 loop, exit upright. P-15.03 Double Immelman with two knif-edge flights From upright push through a ½ loop immediately followed by a ¼ roll, perform a horizontal knife-edge flight, perform a ¼ roll and immediately pull through a ½ loop immediately followd by a ¼ roll, perform a horizontal knife-edge flight, perform a ¼ roll, exit upright. P-15.04 Half Square Loop with ½ roll From upright push through a ¼ loop, perform a ½ roll, pull through a ¼ loop, exit upright. P-15.05 Stall Turn with 1 ¼ roll up, ¾ roll down From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform a 1 ¼ roll, perform a stall turn into a vertical downline, perform a ¾ roll down, pull through a ¼ loop, exit upright. P-15.06 Reverse Cuban 8 with ½ roll From upright pull through a 1/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform a ½ roll, pull through a 5/8 loop, exit upright. P-15.07 Roll Combination with three 1/6 rolls, three 1/6 rolls in opposite direction From upright, perform three 1/6 rolls followed by another three 1/6 rolls in opposite direction, exit upright. P-15.08 Pull-Push-Push Humpty-Bump with ¾ roll up, ¾ roll down (Option: ½ roll up, ½ roll down) From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform a ¾ roll, push through a ½ loop into a vertical downline, perform a ¾ roll, push through a 1/4 loop, exit inverted. Option: From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform a ½ roll, push through a ½ loop into a vertical downline, perform a ½ roll, push through a 1/4 loop, exit inverted. P-15.09 Top Hat Inverted Spin with 2 ½ turns From inverted push through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, pull through a ¼ loop into a horizontal line, perform a spin with 2 ½ turns, perform a verical downline, pull through a ¼ loop, exit upright. P-15.10 Pull-Knife-Edge-Push Humpty-Bump with ½ roll down From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform a 1/2 loop in knife-edge flight into a vertical downline, perform a ½ roll, push through a ¼ loop, exit inverted. P-15.11 Reverse Cuban 8 with two ½ rolls, two ½ rolls in opposite directions From inverted, push through a 5/8 loop into a 45° downline, perform two ¼ rolls, push through a ¾ loop into another 45° downline, perform two ½ rolls in opposite directions, pull through a 1/8 loop, exit upright. P-15.12 Figure 9 with four ¼ rolls up From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform four ¼ rolls, perform a ¾ loop, exit inverted. P-15.13 Hour-Glass with ½ roll, roll, ½ roll From inverted, push through a 1/8 loop into a 45° upline line, push through a 3/8 loop into a horizontal line, perform a ½ roll, pull through a 3/8 loop into a 45° downline, perform a roll, push through a 3/8 loop into a horizontal line, perform a ½ roll, pull through a 3/8 loop into a 45° upline, pull through a 1/8 loop, exit inverted. P-15.14 Half Square Loop on Corner with ½ rolls in each line From inverted, pull through a 1/8 loop into a 45° downline, perform a ½ roll, push through a ¼ loop into a 45° downline, perform a ½ roll, pull through a 1/8 loop, exit upright. P-15.15 45° Upline with two rolls in opposite directions From upright, pull through a 1/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform two rolls in opposite directions, push through a 1/8 loop, exit upright. P-15.16Reverse Immelman with ½ roll From upright, perform a ½ roll and immediately pull through a ½ loop, exit upright. P-15.17 Avalache with snap roll on top From upright, pull through a loop while performing a snap roll on the top of the loop, exit upright. Final Schedule F-15 (2014-2015) F-15.01 Double Immelman with ½ rolls in both ½ loops integrated, two ½ rolls in opposite direction From upright, pull through a 1/2 loop while performing a ½ roll integrated, immediately followed by a ½ roll in opposite direction, perform a horizontal line, pull through a ½ loop while performing a ½ roll, immediately followed by a ½ roll in opposite direction, exit upright. F-15.02 Stall Turn with three ¼ rolls up, 1 1/14 rolls down From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform three ¼ rolls, perform a stall turn into a vertical downline, perform 1 ¼ roll, exit inverted. F-15.03 Golf Ball with two ¾ roll up, knife-edge loop, ¾ roll down From inverted, pull through a 1/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform a ¾ roll perform a ¾ loop in knife-edge flight into a 45° downline, perform a ¾ roll, pull through a 1/8 loop, exit upright. F-15.04 ½ Square Loop with two snap rolls in opposite directions From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform a snap roll and another snap roll in opposite direction, pull through a ¼ loop, exit inverted. F-15.05 Loop with two ½ rolls in opposite directions integrated From inverted, pull through a loop while performing a ½ roll integrated in the first 180° of the loop, immediately followed by a ½ roll in opposite direction integrated in the second 180° of the loop, exit inverted. F-15.06 Inverted Spin with 2 ½ turns, ½ roll down From inverted, perform an inverted spin with 2 ½ turns, perform a vertical downline, perform ½ roll down, exit upright. F-15.07 Horizontal Triangular Circle with ¼ roll, ½ outside rolls in each corner integrated From upright, perform a ¼ roll, perform a horizontal triangular circle of equal side lengths while performing a ½ roll to the outside in each corner integrated, perform a ¼ roll, exit upright. F-15.08 Top Hat with two ¼ rolls up, snap roll down (Option: Three ¼ rolls up, 1 ¼ snap roll down) From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform two ¼ rolls, pull through a ¼ loop into a horizontal line, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical down line, perform a snap roll, pull through a ¼ loop, exit upright. Option: From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform three ¼ rolls, pull through a ¼ loop into a horizontal line, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical down line, perform a 1 ¼ snap roll, pull through a ¼ loop, exit upright F-15.09 Vertical Cuban 8 with four 1/8 rolls up, two ½ rolls down From upright, pull through a 3/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform four 1/8 rolls, pull through a ¾ loop into a 45° downline, perform two ½ rolls, push through a 3/8 loop, exit inverted. F-15.10 ½ Square Loop on Corner with ½ loop integrated in ¼ loop From inverted, push through a 1/8 loop into a 45° upline, push through a ¼ loop nto a 45° upline, while performing a ½ roll integrated in the ¼ loop, pull through a 1/8 loop, exit inverted. F-15.11 Horizontal Hour-Glass with two ¼ rolls, two ¼ rolls in opposite direction, two ¾ rolls in opposite directions From inverted, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical downline, pull through a 3/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform two ¼ rolls immediately followed by another two ¼ rolls in opposite direction, push through 3/8 loop into a vertical downline, push through a 3/8 loop into a 45° upline, perform a ¾ roll immediately followed by another ¾ roll in opposite direction, pull through a 1/8 loop, exit inverted. F-15.12 Reverse Immelman with snap roll From inverted, perform a snap roll and immediately pull through a ½ loop, exit upright F-15.13 Figure 9 with four ¼ rolls up, ¾ loop with roll integrated in top 180° From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform four ¼ rolls, pull through a ¾ loop while performing a roll integrated in the top 180° of the ¾ loop, exit upright. F-15.14 ½ 6-Sided Loop with with ½ roll From upright, push through a 1/12 loop into a 30° downline, push through a 1/6 loop into a vertical downline, perform a ½ roll, pull through a 1/6 loop into a 30° downline, pull through a 1/12 loop, exit upright. F-15.15 Roll Combination with four rolls in opposite directions From upright, perform four rolls in opposite directions, exit upright. F-15.16 Pull-Pull-Pull Hupty-Bump with roll up, roll down From upright, pull through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform a roll, pull through a ½ loop into a vertical downline, perform a roll, pull through a ¼ loop, exit inverted. F-15.17 45° Stall Turn with six 1/8 rolls up, 1 ¼ snap roll down From inverted, push through a ¼ loop into a vertical upline, perform six 1/8 rolls, perform a stall turn into a vertical downline, perform 1 ¼ snap roll, exit upright.
Dit zijn inderdaad de voorstellen zoals ze uitgewerkt zijn. Ze moeten nog wel door de vergadering (Lausanne dacht ik) goedgekeurd worden. Enig commentaar uit de jurtwereld (internationaal): P15.14: Ondoenlijk om dit figuur normaal vanuit middenlijn te vliegen. Iets anders moet het worden.
Dat is inderdaad een leuke.. bij de variant omhoog zie je mensen (ik iig) al vaak te hoog uitkomen, alleen omlaag is dat problematisch
Ik kom niet helemaal uit die site, kun je een linkje posten naar de aresti's bij het programma? Dat is om een met een korte blik een indruk te krijgen iets overzichtelijker. Ik heb met google de aresti van F13 gevonden, [F3A-Discussion] Schedule Proposals F-13/15
F13 stond ook al in mijn post als je op die link van mij onderaan steeds 'previous post' doet, kom je uiteindelijk bij de oorspronkelijke post en attachments uit. Of daar aresti bij zit weet ik niet, er zaten .bin bestanden bij, dus mss wel?
F13 F15 P13 (pdf) http://lists.f3a.us/pipermail/f3a-discussion/attachments/20100402/a1753d9c/attachment.obj P15 (pdf) http://lists.f3a.us/pipermail/f3a-discussion/attachments/20100402/a1753d9c/attachment-0002.obj http://lists.f3a.us/pipermail/f3a-discussion/2010-April/000039.html
Wat opmerkingen hierbij: - Volgens de laatste info vandaag wordt waarschijnlijk P15.14 vervangen door een stall-turn met 2/4 punt rol down. - Interessante figuren: - P13.11: De rollen geintegreerd in de loops van een cubaan - P15.3: Meskant in de lijnen van een dubbele immelmann - P15.7: 1/6 rollen voor het eerst geintroduceerd zover ik weet - P15.10: Hebben we eindelijk door hoe een stallturn gevlogen moet worden, vragen ze nu een wingover.... De rest is redelijk straight forward. Ik ben er nu redelijk doorheen gegaan en heb m'n commentaar gegeven richting organisatie en ik denk dat het leuke programma's zijn die door de beginnende F3A-er gevlogen kunnen worden maar de crack heeft er ook genoeg uitdaging in (Als je nagaat dat P-09 eigenlijk wat te simpel was) BTW: Alle programma's zijn nog zeker niet officieel!
heeft iemand hem al gevlogen? Leuk programma maar wel lang! Als ik het volledig vlieg red ik het net op een 4900mAh accu (of net niet...). Volkert
Ik heb het P13 programma nu 20X gevlogen. De figuur 2 is een nieuwe, de stallturn in de vliegrichting is in het begin erg lastig. Het model stallt alleen wanneer in het 2 e gedeelte na de 1/4 e rol het model tegen de wind in wordt geduwd met richting.Doe je dit niet dan lukt het niet. Met wind mee stallen gaat ook niet want dan wordt alleen een wing over gemaakt. Ook de figuur 15,de tegengestelde rollenpartij is een hele uitdaging. De meskantdiamant lijkt heel moeilijk maar wordt niet zo ervaren. De Oxalys gebruikt met het P13 programma met windkracht 5 3200-3300 Ma. Met het 4400 Ma pakket kan ik zelfs nog een paar figuren extra maken. Probeer eens een kleinere propeller als het gebruik aan de grens van de capaciteit komt.
Ed, heb jij de Ned vertaling van het P-13 programma? zo ja, zou je hem dan door kunnen mailen/posten? groet.
De Nederlandse versies van de programma s worden door de subcommissie gemaakt, evenals een figuurbeschrijving en een juryhandleiding. Dit is nog niet klaar. Zodra deze klus af is worden de programma s in het reglementenboek van de KnvvL geplaatst. Door de programma s te vliegen kom je mogelijke fouten of niet aansluitende figuren tegen. Ik heb zelf een coach versie gemaakt voor het A 12 en het P13 programma. Er komt ook een coachformulier beschikbaar op de F3A site. Stuur in een PB even je E-mail adres,mag je die wel zolang gebruiken
